{"id":1269,"date":"2014-09-18T21:51:02","date_gmt":"2014-09-19T02:51:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/?p=1269"},"modified":"2015-08-26T06:26:02","modified_gmt":"2015-08-26T11:26:02","slug":"we-have-tfsas-now-lose-the-hbp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/?p=1269","title":{"rendered":"We Have TFSAs Now: Lose the HBP"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A little while ago Rob Carrick idly wondered on his facebook page\/discussion group if the home buyer&#8217;s plan (HBP) was a good idea. In case you&#8217;re not aware, the HBP is one of the few ways you can take money out of your RRSP without paying tax on it: you can pull up to $25,000 out as a first-time buyer, and repay it over the next 15 years. The HBP primarily accomplishes two things.<\/p>\n<p>1. It lets people contribute to their long-term (retirement) savings with an &#8220;out&#8221; to use those funds for a down payment on a house\/condo. This way they can save for the future without having to plan what will be house funds and what will be retirement funds. <\/p>\n<p>2. It lets people get a tax refund on their down payment that they can also use on the house right away, effectively borrowing from their future selves. In the short term, it&#8217;s an incentive to buy.<\/p>\n<p>On top of this, it has a psychological effect: home ownership and post-secondary education are the <em>only <\/em>sanctioned reasons for borrowing from your RRSP. Add how irrational people can be about taxes and tax deductions, and it&#8217;s a bit of a sacred cow. In the right light (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/?p=1268\">octarine<\/a>?) it looks like the government encouraging buyers to reach for as much real estate as they can, using everything at their disposal (including their RRSP). <\/p>\n<p>With TFSAs in place now though the first point is well taken care of by that tax shelter: you can easily throw all your long-term savings in there as a young person, and if you need to raid them for a down payment (or <em>whatever<\/em>) then you can, even in excess of $25,000. Plus it&#8217;s already set up to be indexed to inflation so we won&#8217;t have to worry about future whining that the HBP isn&#8217;t big enough. As for point two, I <em>really <\/em>don&#8217;t think we need any more tax incentives or holiness attached to housing, so doing away with the HBP in favour of encouraging TFSA use would suit my politics just fine. <\/p>\n<p>To be fair, this may need a few years for transition, and would present a bit of a savings conundrum to people who get employer RRSP top-ups, but I find it hard to feel that&#8217;s a major flaw in my plan. Let&#8217;s simplify the RRSP that one extra step, and phase out the HBP. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A little while ago Rob Carrick idly wondered on his facebook page\/discussion group if the home buyer&#8217;s plan (HBP) was a good idea. In case you&#8217;re not aware, the HBP is one of the few ways you can take money out of your RRSP without paying tax on it: you can pull up to $25,000 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[16,11,20],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1269"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1269"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1269\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1269"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1269"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1269"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}