{"id":1336,"date":"2015-09-21T21:56:34","date_gmt":"2015-09-22T02:56:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/?p=1336"},"modified":"2015-09-21T22:05:41","modified_gmt":"2015-09-22T03:05:41","slug":"basement-suites-are-not-magic-moneysense-edition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/?p=1336","title":{"rendered":"Basement Suites Are Not Magic: MoneySense Edition"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve written many times before about how basement suites (BS) are not magical. They are a way to live in less space, in what becomes a non-detached house, with an option to take it over and make a SFH detached again. However, if the rental market in general is crazy, the added costs of a basement suite generally is, too.<\/p>\n<p>Well <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneysense.ca\/planning\/am-i-on-track-to-pay-off-the-mortgage-in-10-years\/\">MoneySense recently featured a very short article<\/a> touting how a BS could help a Vancouver couple become mortgage-free faster. Unfortunately given the length, they didn&#8217;t examine any of the underlying assumptions. <\/p>\n<p>The assumption was that they could renovate their house for $75,000 to create a two-bedroom BS, which would then rent for the princely sum of $1800\/mo. There are no additional costs with this rent &#8212; which either means they had an even higher gross rent, or neglected the added costs entirely. <\/p>\n<p>So, reality check time, how might this actually play out?<\/p>\n<p>Firstly, $1800 sounds really steep for a <em>basement <\/em>suite. I know Vancouver is a bit pricier than Toronto, but <em>really<\/em>. So I did some checking on Craigslist. I found one outlier basement suite at $2495\/mo, one at $2150\/mo, a small handful at $2000\/mo, and then just 10 starting at $1800 &#8212; so that might be <em>possible <\/em>for them, but it&#8217;s at the very upper end of the basement suite market (and at that price point I can see they are competing with a number of above-ground units or exceptionally large basement units). Even at $1700 many of the suites were above-ground or fully furnished. $1650 seems to be a more reasonable rent expectation.<\/p>\n<p>And that is not going to come free. In addition to the effort and loss of privacy (which we won&#8217;t slap a price tag on), they&#8217;ll have increased utilities usage<sup>1<\/sup> and likely a higher insurance premium. Let&#8217;s call that $50\/mo. So they&#8217;re now bringing in $1600\/mo. <\/p>\n<p>But they&#8217;re going to have some other expenses to account for, like vacancy and maintenance. Let&#8217;s be generous and assume the unit turns over every four years, with just a month of vacancy and a quick paint, patch, and appliance tune-up of $3000. Now they&#8217;re down to netting an average of $1500\/mo. On which they have to pay some tax &#8212; sure, they&#8217;ll have some interest and property tax to write-off, but even figuring on 4% of the $75k invested, if they&#8217;re in the 40% tax bracket their after-tax amount to help pay down the dreaded mortgage is just $9k\/yr. <\/p>\n<p>Bring that figure back to the mortgage calculator and their mortgage-free date goes from age 68 to&#8230; 68. Yep, taking all that risk, living first in a construction zone and then with lowly basement-dweller renter scum beneath their feet will likely leave them paying off the mortgage on the very same date as if they had done nothing. To be fair, that&#8217;s using a 5% mortgage rate as in the article. If their base case is topping up a (today&#8217;s) realistic 3% mortgage to the same $3k\/mo as used in the article, then they&#8217;d be done at 67.7 in the base-case payoff, and 67.5 in the rental suite case &#8212; ahead by <em>two months<\/em>. <\/p>\n<p>Not examined in the article is the <em>other <\/em>alternative: downsize. If all they need\/want is the space in the upper unit, and obviously don&#8217;t mind sharing walls, then they could move to a townhouse (or rent or move out of the GVA entirely) and move their mortgage pay-off day to <em>right now<\/em>. <\/p>\n<p><small>1. Contrary to stereotypes, basement-dwellers<sup>2<\/sup> do shower, which adds to the water and water heater (whether gas or electric) bill. Plus the other incremental utility usage.<br \/>\n2. Again, 96% of my readership, so no offense intended in tackling these persistent stereotypes head-on.<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve written many times before about how basement suites (BS) are not magical. They are a way to live in less space, in what becomes a non-detached house, with an option to take it over and make a SFH detached again. 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