{"id":434,"date":"2008-01-24T00:32:46","date_gmt":"2008-01-24T04:32:46","guid":{"rendered":"\/blog\/?p=434"},"modified":"2011-10-21T01:50:27","modified_gmt":"2011-10-21T06:50:27","slug":"stock-market-nooblar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/?p=434","title":{"rendered":"Stock Market Nooblar"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><i>Never try to catch a falling knife.<br \/>\nNever shoot a running horse.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>These are two simple sayings that investors use to remind them of how to manage getting into and out of a stock. They essentially boil down to one word: <b>patience<\/b>. Fortunately dear readers, you have me here to act as a giant stock market nooblar to reinforce the point for you. I&#8217;ve made two recent mis-steps in this volatile market.<\/p>\n<p><i>Never try to catch a falling knife.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>My falling knife was Russel Metals (<a href=\"http:\/\/finance.google.com\/finance?q=tse%3Arus&#038;hl=en\">TSE:RUS<\/a>). As <a href=\/blog\/?p=403>I mentioned earlier<\/a>, I had accumulated a bit of cash over the last two years or so and didn&#8217;t put it to very good work. It was at least in a high interest savings account, but I felt that a good portion of that money could serve me better in the stock market. So I spent a weekend with my dad looking for stocks to buy (and then discovered the magic of low-MER <a href=\/blog\/?p=411>index funds<\/a>). There were a few that I liked, but except for TD (which I&#8217;ll get to), I thought they were all a little too expensive for me. Russel metals in particular was one that both my dad and I liked. It&#8217;s a steel company, and they make a variety of steel parts, particularly tubular steel for oil sands projects. Their expertise in rolled steel and proximity to the oil sands lead me to think that they would have a pretty steady business as long as the oil sands kept pumping. They also paid a decent dividend. However, I just didn&#8217;t like them at the price they were at (around $26 at the time), and figured (via a valuation calculation that, given my inexperience, might as well have been composed of a dart and price target) that under $24 seemed right to me, so I put in an order at $23.75 and just kept renewing it every few weeks. <\/p>\n<p>I got it at that price not too long ago, in the middle of a steep fall to it&#8217;s current price around $20. If I had waited for it to settle in to its current price, I probably would have been a lot happier. Of course, I can&#8217;t be too upset: as long as they keep up their dividend, I should make 7% on that money. And I think it&#8217;s a good long-term hold, and the day before I got it, it looked like it would take quite a downward spike to hit my bid. Though there are all kinds of ways to feel stupid when a stock you <em>just <\/em>bought falls over 16% in just a few days. If I had more money to invest, I probably would have bought it in a few separate lots as it was falling.<\/p>\n<p><i>Never shoot a running horse<\/i><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/finance.google.com\/finance?q=TSE%3ATD\">TD Bank<\/a> is perhaps my favourite bank stock. They may not have as much of a dividend as some of the others, but they have such a great retail bank business that always seems to get at least decent word of mouth, combined with the longer hours inherited from Canada Trust. They have a great discount brokerage service, and have been prudent with their US acquisitions; overall it&#8217;s a company I feel proud to own a part of (new call centre excepted). Moreover, they managed to sidestep most of the subprime fiasco (I say <em>most <\/em>because while they may have avoided investing in ABCP, the reasoning goes that there&#8217;s a good chance a mortgage given by TD to a perfectly low-risk client could be under a sub-prime second mortgage, and if that client goes into arrears, it&#8217;ll hurt TD just as much as if TD made the sub-prime loan in the first place). That, in my mind, makes them a shining beacon of conservative, intelligent management in this sea of financial sector disaster. At $65\/share back in November, I thought they were a good bargain and bought some up. It shot up to $75 within two weeks. However, I was in it for the long term, and didn&#8217;t end up taking any profit there. I got to watch that high slowly erode as TD was dragged down with the rest of the financial sector, all the way back down to where I bought it. It&#8217;s been unusually volatile these last few weeks, and to be honest, I got spooked, particularly when it fell below my supposed more-than-fair buy price. My dad phoned me up and told me to sell it and cut my losses &#8212; while TD may be a great bank, possibly the very greatest these days, the market sentiment (or the &#8220;macro picture&#8221;) just wasn&#8217;t behind banks, and TD was going to get killed with the rest. <\/p>\n<p>So I put in a sell order with an ask price of $67\/share two days ago, hoping to catch another inexplicable spike back up, and get out with a modest profit to watch from the sidelines. That happened today. I can&#8217;t really complain: I made 2% after commissions in just over two months. However, if I had the time to watch it today, I might not have sold so soon into its huge rally at the end of the day &#8212; it closed up over $68. By selling while it was in the midst of its upswing (shooting the running horse), I gave up a fairly decent amount of potential profits. Who knows what tomorrow might bring?<\/p>\n<p>Again, it was a bit of a noobish thing to do, but I&#8217;m trying not to beat myself up over it too much. While I still like TD for the long-haul, this volatility makes me think I can get it for a better price than I had. So, I take a bit of a profit today, and sit back with my cash and wait for a better buying opportunity.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of buying opportunities, I bought some more Priszm income fund (<a href=\"http:\/\/finance.google.com\/finance?q=qsr.un&#038;hl=en\">TSE:QSR.UN<\/a>) today. Priszm is an income trust that manages several fast food restaurants, mostly KFC and Pizza Hut locations. They&#8217;ve had some financial troubles of late (and I can understand why &#8212; when I drive by KFC it&#8217;s always empty!), and had to cut their distribution for a few months while they got the company back in order. They had been paying out at about 6% during this time. Now they&#8217;ve just announced that the distribution is going back up to $1.20\/year. At the current share price of $6, that&#8217;s a 20% return! There are some concerns: the TD analyst who did the report felt that $1.20\/year might be unsustainable for Priszm, and I can totally see where they&#8217;re coming from. However, the distribution the analyst suggests, and that my dad also thinks they&#8217;ll settle to in a few more months would still represent about a 15% return. It might be a bit of a troubled company, but I&#8217;ll take a gamble on getting 20% on my money, with a decent shot at 15%, and what looks to be a fairly solid floor of 6%. Of course, since it does appear to be higher-risk, I only put about half the money I got back from my TD sale into Priszm. The rest will wait for this volatile market to bring me another buying opportunity.<\/p>\n<p><i>I don&#8217;t know why I&#8217;d need a disclaimer about not following my advice in the very post where I talk about the nooblar mistakes I made, but just in case it&#8217;s needed: I am not a financial advisor. This is not financial advice. Don&#8217;t buy or sell based on my recommendation, and if you do, don&#8217;t come whining to me afterward.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Never try to catch a falling knife. Never shoot a running horse. These are two simple sayings that investors use to remind them of how to manage getting into and out of a stock. They essentially boil down to one word: patience. 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