{"id":614,"date":"2008-12-01T02:12:16","date_gmt":"2008-12-01T06:12:16","guid":{"rendered":"\/blog\/?p=614"},"modified":"2008-12-01T03:48:52","modified_gmt":"2008-12-01T07:48:52","slug":"almost-made-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/?p=614","title":{"rendered":"Almost Made It"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When I first &#8220;made up my mind&#8221; to buy a Prius (in quotation marks because I obviously don&#8217;t have a Prius in my driveway now, so my mind couldn&#8217;t have been that made up), it was because my car had been stolen and even though it was recovered it wasn&#8217;t pleasant to drive anymore &#8212; I was constantly reminded of the violation. It was also because it was 10 years old and starting to act its age. In 2006, it incurred over $4000 in repairs, and I really doubted it was worth that much in the first place. In 2007, another $1000 in repairs, plus an estimate for $700 in repairs that I decided to defer (good choice so far &#8212; both those parts are still going strong). 2008 however has been fantastic. Repairs so far haven&#8217;t broken $200 (not counting scheduled maintenance), and I was starting to think that my car was getting through it&#8217;s mid-life crisis and I might be one of those Honda owners who gets 15 or 20 years out of their car. I was getting so hopeful I even took the down payment I had saved up and put it in the market.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately today I took my car in to the tire shop for a routine rotation + alignment, and they said they &#8220;weren&#8217;t going to waste [my] money with an alignment &#8212; your lower ball joints are loose and it&#8217;s going to be $550-$600 to repair&#8221;. Now I&#8217;ve known for a little while that some suspension work was coming for my car. In the summer it&#8217;s fine, but it makes a heck of a squeak going over all the potholes in the alleyway once the temperature dips below zero, so I suspect that once they start looking closer at the ball joints they&#8217;ll find double that amount of repairs to do.<\/p>\n<p>Oh well, if it&#8217;s not repairs on an old car, it&#8217;s payments on a new car, and I can at least console myself with the fact that if the depression does hit, I can always park the car and not pay for repairs, but if I were to get another one I&#8217;d have to pay the loan off no matter how much I avoided driving.<\/p>\n<p>It looks like a lot of people these days are choosing to keep their cars longer. It doesn&#8217;t look like the amount people drive has changed all that much, but new car sales are way, way down, leading to the Detroit 3 to look for handouts\/bailouts. It&#8217;s amazing how much they&#8217;ve shot themselves in the feet over the years with cheap credit and leases. As <a href=\"http:\/\/business.theglobeandmail.com\/servlet\/story\/RTGAM.20081119.wdecloet1120\/BNStory\/robColumnsBlogs\/home\">Derek DeCloet points out in a recent Globe article<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The Detroit Three spent years training their customers not to buy vehicles without a subsidy \u00e2\u20ac\u201c usually in the form of 2-per-cent or zero-per-cent loans. They also taught them not to bother saving for one, because no down payment was required. (Your columnist, when buying a Pontiac Vibe five years ago, was practically admonished by the salesman for putting $2,000 toward the purchase. Didn&#8217;t I have a better use for the money, he wanted to know?)&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So with the days of a zero-down lease\/financing over with, it&#8217;s going to take time for new car sales to come back because people are going to need a few years to start saving up for those down payments again. On top of that, the Detroit 3 have been existing in this perverse parallel economic universe for some time now: their quality has been coming up, but mostly when measured by short-term surveys, &#8220;initial quality&#8221;, etc. The perception that their quality, especially the long-term reliability, is still low, and so for the most part they compete based on price. However, they don&#8217;t have the advantage in terms of margin AFAIK: their labour costs are higher, their &#8220;legacy&#8221; costs are higher, and for GM in particular, they have a lot of duplication selling the same crap in a ton of very slightly different trims under different badges. That&#8217;s a bad position to be in, and I&#8217;m actually amazed it lasted for as long as it did. Now with people suddenly interested in keeping their cars longer, and needing more predictability in costs (they can&#8217;t tap their HELOC for a costly surprise repair) long-term quality is going to play even more of a factor.<\/p>\n<p>This is again a spot where they have perhaps shot themselves in the foot when it comes to their hybrid programs. The Honda system is simple: the belt-and-cone CVT may be fragile (we&#8217;ll need some time to see if that&#8217;s really the case), but the hybrid implementation is very simple, and will actually work on engine power alone even if the motor\/battery dies (though the engine is perhaps more likely to die than the motor &#8212; and given that we&#8217;re talking about a Honda engine, that&#8217;s not likely). The Toyota\/Ford system has been poo-pooed all over for requiring the battery to work to run, but beyond that it&#8217;s actually a pretty elegant transmission system that should be quite durable. The only issue I&#8217;ve heard with it is that it might not have sufficient cooling, which might be one reason why you&#8217;re not supposed to tow with a Prius (note that you can tow with a HiHi or FEH). The system GM developed, it&#8217;s &#8220;two mode transmission&#8221; is like two GM transmissions frankensteined together, with four clutches throughout (I am lead to believe that the clutch is a common point of failure in GM transmissions). It&#8217;s a system designed primarily for large trucks (the Tahoe hybrid and Escalade hybrid), which indicates that clearly GM was hoping to continue marketing large trucks based on &lt;5 years of ownership even in a future where a hybrid system was deemed necessary. At the same time, GM and Ford stopped making minivans, so if\/when those soccer moms who &#8220;need&#8221; 3rd row seating want something that sucks a little less fuel, they&#8217;ll go to the competition for a minivan.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that just because of how many people are employed by the automakers and their sub-industries that they&#8217;ll get a bailout from governments &#8212; the American government if not ours &#8212; but I hope that they actually manage to change into companies that can compete in a world of high gas prices and tight credit. I hope it&#8217;s not just going to be used to supply their burn rate for another 6 months or a year when they&#8217;ll be back in the same position. I also hope that Toyota and Honda &#8212; who are equally foreign automakers in Canada and who also employ a lot of Canadians &#8212; don&#8217;t get completely screwed by the bailouts.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When I first &#8220;made up my mind&#8221; to buy a Prius (in quotation marks because I obviously don&#8217;t have a Prius in my driveway now, so my mind couldn&#8217;t have been that made up), it was because my car had been stolen and even though it was recovered it wasn&#8217;t pleasant to drive anymore &#8212; [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/614"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=614"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/614\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=614"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=614"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.holypotato.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=614"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}